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	<title>Comments on: Coding by Hand &#8211; A Lost Art?</title>
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		<title>By: Eric N.</title>
		<link>http://blog.websitestyle.com/index.php/2007/03/26/coding-by-hand-a-lost-art/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 05:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kalle, what an interesting thought. I was just talking to my fellow webmaster about why I want things to work _this_ way and how I work diligently to make these changes rather than accept what is available.

I do all my coding for php sites by hand -- but it&#039;s mostly modifying pre-existing php code, and coding in custom functions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kalle, what an interesting thought. I was just talking to my fellow webmaster about why I want things to work _this_ way and how I work diligently to make these changes rather than accept what is available.</p>
<p>I do all my coding for php sites by hand &#8212; but it&#8217;s mostly modifying pre-existing php code, and coding in custom functions.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalle</title>
		<link>http://blog.websitestyle.com/index.php/2007/03/26/coding-by-hand-a-lost-art/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I think in the web development area, there are different parts for different people (excluding the jack-of-all-trades folks). Personally I loathe web DESIGN but kind of like making it behave the way I want it to, while others love designing but are clueless when it comes to making it do what they want. The two are often separated and in the latter case, I totally don&#039;t see a problem with using any interface available to you (including The GIMP or whatever else) to &quot;get your idea across&quot; in as accurate a way as possible to the actual implementors whose task then becomes to copycat your depiction as accurately as possible and implementing the behavior behind it.

People have taken that several steps further though, e.g. Ruby on Rails where the individual parts are distinguished even further, letting the designers and implementors work even closer.

I know I ran a bit off topic there but that&#039;s my thought on coding by hand vs coding by tool. The former is as you say for the real coders while the latter is for the people who just want to get their point across (in a good way).

-Kalle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I think in the web development area, there are different parts for different people (excluding the jack-of-all-trades folks). Personally I loathe web DESIGN but kind of like making it behave the way I want it to, while others love designing but are clueless when it comes to making it do what they want. The two are often separated and in the latter case, I totally don&#8217;t see a problem with using any interface available to you (including The GIMP or whatever else) to &#8220;get your idea across&#8221; in as accurate a way as possible to the actual implementors whose task then becomes to copycat your depiction as accurately as possible and implementing the behavior behind it.</p>
<p>People have taken that several steps further though, e.g. Ruby on Rails where the individual parts are distinguished even further, letting the designers and implementors work even closer.</p>
<p>I know I ran a bit off topic there but that&#8217;s my thought on coding by hand vs coding by tool. The former is as you say for the real coders while the latter is for the people who just want to get their point across (in a good way).</p>
<p>-Kalle.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://blog.websitestyle.com/index.php/2007/03/26/coding-by-hand-a-lost-art/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should&#039;ve been more specific about what I meant ;) I was talking about web development primarily. 

Of course, since I&#039;ve used GUI development software when making desktop applications, I can&#039;t criticize people there. When it comes to web though... that&#039;s another can of worms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should&#8217;ve been more specific about what I meant <img src='http://blog.websitestyle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I was talking about web development primarily. </p>
<p>Of course, since I&#8217;ve used GUI development software when making desktop applications, I can&#8217;t criticize people there. When it comes to web though&#8230; that&#8217;s another can of worms.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalle</title>
		<link>http://blog.websitestyle.com/index.php/2007/03/26/coding-by-hand-a-lost-art/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It totally depends on what you&#039;re coding. If you&#039;re coding web stuff, you find a high percentage of &quot;GUI&quot; usage, whereas if you&#039;re coding a 3D engine or anything lower level, only an absolute fucktard would use &quot;Visual Anything&quot; to get it done. To say &quot;Coding by hand&quot; is a lost art isn&#039;t really on-the-spot. In fact, the only time I ever used a visual anything was in my just-as-brief-as-it-was-unfortunate encounter with Nackademin, where Windows and MS were it.

-Kalle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It totally depends on what you&#8217;re coding. If you&#8217;re coding web stuff, you find a high percentage of &#8220;GUI&#8221; usage, whereas if you&#8217;re coding a 3D engine or anything lower level, only an absolute fucktard would use &#8220;Visual Anything&#8221; to get it done. To say &#8220;Coding by hand&#8221; is a lost art isn&#8217;t really on-the-spot. In fact, the only time I ever used a visual anything was in my just-as-brief-as-it-was-unfortunate encounter with Nackademin, where Windows and MS were it.</p>
<p>-Kalle.</p>
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